Run When Minimized and/or without adds
It would be great if your miner could run minimized - clearly you like the ad revenue; but it would be nice to run minimized and startup in the background.
myrsnipa hanne braenna commented
I like the recommendation of a guest account for unattended mining.
For me, the static ads are a non-issue, since they are low bandwidth usage and insignificant GPU usage. I do not like video ads, for several issues, first is bandwidth to download then and the GPU to process the video stream, the noise they generated unless muted, as well as causing the app to crash.
Several techniques to handle the farming with the window on the screen in an non-intrusive way or in the background.
1. Set up a second 'junk' legacy monitor. Have the miner displayed on the junk monitor. That monitor for all practical purposes can be 1024x780 and it still work. Turn the 'junk' monitor off.
2. Run the program behind other programs that are maximized, as listed in this thread.
3. Move the mining window where only the top left hand corner of the task bar for the mining window is displayed on the screen. In effect this puts about 99% of the app off the screen. This is a gimp way of minimizing the window without minimizing it.
What I would like to see, on both the CPU and GPU side of mining, is away to scale a maximum amount of processing power that either the CPU or GPU would be allowed to use for the app. This will allow the user to for example to set 90% for both GPU and CPU and in no case would the GPU / CPU exceed using more then 90% of the total resources. Most modern computers can easily handle several application on 10% of available processing power. The issue comes up when the another application needs to have a small spike in resource usage for a short time, like when you make a change variable to a moderated sized spreadsheet.
We are also investigating separately things like running in the background (possibly in exchange for a small % of what is mined). Right users keep everything they mine as the app is ad-supported.
That said, the background limit is mainly due to the Windows Store, but it looks like Microsoft may have added new permissions that would let apps run in the background (in some cases).
We just released Bitcoin Miner 1.52.* which disables video ads if a crash occurs.
To update Bitcoin Miner:
1. Open Run (Windows Key+R)
2. Enter ms-windows-store:Updates and press OK
3. Click "Get updates"
4. Wait for Bitcoin Miner to update
Once Bitcoin Miner 1.52.* is installed, if the crash happens again, video ads will be disabled for several weeks.
If curious: This crash is being caused by one of Microsoft’s recent patches to the Edge browser in Windows 10. The workaround in 1.52.* should fix things until Microsoft can fix the underlying cause.
Can't you provide a Stand alone software and Adfree version of this software? So you can run it separate from app store rules. Cause I agree with running in the background and removing the video Ads that crash the program. Please Fix ASAP.
The video ads cause the app to crash. I dont mind the static ads, but the video ads are hurting this app's usefulness.
the fact that it only mines on the foreground means you cant use your pc while mining, which is a huge flaw in this digital age. it is a great mining tool but it need to be able to mine in the background,
i cant found this app even not in app store and also cant download on this website
Raven Bluefeather (Raven2099) commented
I agree... It would be great if your miner could run minimized especially since your already taking a cut from us anyway and clearly you like the ad revenue, but it would be nice to run minimized and startup in the background or be able to join the pool using a program like MULTIMINER
Dr Robert R Brown commented
My miner stopes when i visit a web page or any launching point from within the open window. and i had close to 2,ooo satoshis several times and it starts over. are those lost or put in my wallet
Alan your points regarding security are correct, the least risky thing to do if you are running the machine unattended would be to set up a limited permission guest account.
I respectfully question the "great for the user in terms of security" notion. However, in this context that is not the full consideration of risk.
For this tool to have use it would have to run with the computer unattended. Info' sec' 1-0-1 requires that "unattended user equipment shall have appropriate protection" (I couldn't name a person who wouldn't agree that a locked screen requiring password access would not be a minimum control).
This is especially the case given the dubious return-on-investment (electricity costs -v- bitcoin mined) means that your computer is likely using another entity's electricity (hotel room, airport lounge, cafe, etc).
This is more of a limitation Microsoft imposes on Windows Store apps - Bitcoin Miner is a UWP (Universal Windows Platform) app, which means it runs in a limited permission sandbox. While this is great for the user in terms of security, it prevents things like running for more than 2 seconds in the background or while the lock screen is up. Unfortunately, this restriction is imposed by Microsoft on all Windows Store apps. If Microsoft lifts this restriction we’ll definitely support it as it’s a feature that just makes sense.
As a minor workaround, Windows won’t suspend mining if the Window is open but behind other windows. The main thing is the window needs to stay open.
Alternately, another option is to set up a guest account with limited permissions for mining, where the auto-lockscreen functionality is turned off.
Somebody wondered that before and I think the answer was that it is a Windows app function problem. It would have to be something other than a Windows Store app to do that (I think was the answer). Based on the number of satoshis for the work done on very slow things, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the bitcoin source was ads and not mining at all.